FOF #608 – Useless Information

Sep 12, 2007 · 1985 views

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Ronnie is in crisis mode. She can’t just stop thinking about it. Everyone keeps playing it over again and again. Just when she was on the upswing, there again was that large, crumbling massive body […]


  1. Miss Ronnie

    After listening to this episode I was emailed this piece of information about American Democracy.


    This is the most interesting thing I’ve read in a long time.

    The sad thing about it, you can see it coming. I have always heard about this democracy countdown. It is interesting to see it in print. God help us, not that we deserve it. About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some
    2,000 years earlier:

    ‘A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.’

    ‘A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.’

    ‘From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.’

    ‘The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years.’

    ‘During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

    1. from bondage to spiritual faith
    2. from spiritual faith to great courage
    3. from courage to liberty
    4. from liberty to abundance
    5. from abundance to complacency
    6. from complacency to apathy
    7. from apathy to dependence

    Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:

    Number of States won by: Gore: 19 Bush: 29

    Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000 Bush: 2,427,000

    Population of counties won by: Gore: 127 million Bush: 143 million

    Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Gore: 13.2 Bush: 2.1

    Professor Olson adds: ‘In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country

    Gore’s territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare…’

    Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the ‘complacency and apathy’ phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation’s population already having reached the ‘governmental dependency’ phase.

    If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal’s and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

  2. Ventura79 says:

    CHILLRENS, Miss Ronnie, TWO DAYS IN A ROW , that is just TOO GOOD!!!

    My friends are always telling me that they love it when I tell them useless information, because believe it or not, IT MAKES US MORE LEARNED! and who doesnt wanna be more edumacated?

    Great show guys, I am making my plans to meet up with you guys at the award ceremony in LA at the end of the month!

  3. Cliff Dix says:

    Always delightful to hear Ronnie.
    Poor Marc must be bad off. I hope he is feeling better soon. Fausto be carfeul and don’t catch it too.
    Zerocrossings-You had me until the very last sentence.

  4. Cliff: That last comment should have not been posted. It was one of my friend’s friend personal comment.

  5. Neezil says:

    It was nice to hear you guys mention stevia. I’m always trying to avoid fructose and sucralose and I use Jay Robb’s Whey Protein powder which is all natural and uses stevia as a sugar substitute. I heard and have seen stevia used all over Japan, but here in Taiwan I’ve never seen it used anywhere.

    I wondered if this stuff was safe. It’s hard to find any information on it. Jay Robb’s works well for me and it’s reassuring to know that Ronnie endorses nevia. If it’s good for Ronnie, I know it’s good for me! I don’t mean this to sound like an ad or anything. I’m just saying thanks for the reassurance!

  6. I think you should have photoshopped Sal-E into the photo over the ugly black girl in the top left.

    You should have called one of your friends from New York on their opinions on Sept. 11, I know I have stories. I was in the 7th grade living in Ct. (suburbs of NY). I hade kids, friends of mine, who lost parents, aunts, uncles. Kids who knew people in the towers at the time the planes hit. These kids lost their parents, and will never be the same.

  7. hey kids, can you believe it 2 days in a row ? even I’m tired of Miss Ronnie!
    At any rate, in hind sight I’m glad that we chose to take the show
    in a different direction other than reflecting on 9/11. We didn’t really
    get too deep into it, however I feel that as a collective we are all still feeling
    the devastation, and as a result the pain is still evolving it something even more
    malignant i.e. this god forsaken war.
    Having said all that I’m glad that there’s Brittney Spears and useless
    Information that is at our disposal for the mental masturbation that is needed
    In order to keep us emotionally and mentally centered.
    Moving on, as far as stevia is concerned I would urge everybody
    to look into it as a sugar substitute. It just makes sense that if you wanna have
    Something sweet, to ingest something that is actually good for your body , heres some
    More useless information do you know that corpses are decomposing slower
    than they had been 20 years ago?? The theory is, that with all the chemicals we
    Eat we’re actually on a microbiological level embalming ourselves…….crazy I know
    But look into it.
    Well babies there you have it my final word on this weeks shows

  8. When do we get to hear the E! True Hollywood Story on Ms. Ronnie? Stop teasing us, and give us the juicy details! 🙂

  9. Ventura79 says:

    Ms Ronnie, Im gonna do some SANTERIA tonite, a goat, a chicken, and a baby coyote shall be sacrificed,,, Maybe we’ll get u for a third show!
    you know what they say ,THIRD TIME IS THE CHARM!



    p.s. HOW BOUT AN E! THS ON THE WHOLE FOF GANG! —- wet dreams =)

  10. At the risk of having a close encounter of the worst kind with the Equalizer, I must correct the movie reference Miss Ronnie made during the episode: Rosie Perez’ line about the quince was from *White Men Can’t Jump*.

    Oh, and to Zerocrossings, please check out the following article from about the email you posted here:

  11. Tommy says:

    Get well soon Marc, and it is fabulous to hear some more Miss Ronnie! I really like this episode, its just amusing useless information, similar to when everyone was talking about the longest name for everything.

    So Miss Ronnie said how upset she would get b/c the childrens who have the ability to vote, but don’t. I agree that there is no reason for it, but one of the main reason why many young adults who have the ability to vote but don’t is because they feel that their vote does not count and it sucks b/c I wanted to vote in the last election but couldn’t b/c I was 17, my birthday was the day after :(, and I know many people who wanted to vote but couldn’t b/c they are undocumented. So yeah, they need to exercise their privilege, to be able to voice the options of those who don’t have that privilege. And then there are those who are hypocritical about voting. I met some students, they don’t vote but they complain about what the government is doing. That makes me pissed off.

    With 9/11, I didn’t really hear that much about it except for the View and news. What is happening now, was totally not the game plan for when it was 2001. A friend of mine is being shipped off this November as a medic to Afghanistan. Its weird to see him go.

    If you want to take stickers off a surface, and this is like hardcore old stickers. You can use mayo. Apply mayo on the sticker, wait a couple of minutes and scrape it off.

    The singing was fabulous. I miss when Miss Ronnie and Fausto would sing the songs from Dreamgirls which pissed off Marc. Hehe.

  12. Henry says:

    I appreciate your efforts in making this episode not just devoted to 9/11. It was fun listening to interesting facts. Thanks for making me laugh.

    The events of 9/11 are and will always be a time of remembrance and reflection – Yes. However, in midst of remembering the lost lives and honoring the many heroes of such a tragic time – we can celebrate life! We can be grateful for the continuation of our lives and humanity as a whole.

    Look forward to the next show.

  13. Eric says:

    I appreciate how open you all are in your opinions and I like how you try to make your viewpoints understandable for every person’s eyes. Concerning 9/11 and terrorism there are so many different things to bring up, however, I have never been asked to examine WHY America would be targeted. My answer is way too long (AP history jr. year) to post, but I just have to thank you for bringing up that excellent question.

    SHINA TOVA!!! Have a happy new year and eat some apple’s and honey, that’s a sure way to get a year full of good luck!

  14. Funny trivia, two words: Mental Floss. It’s a bi-monthly Trivia magazine with a sense of humour. They also have a couple of collections out in bookform, funny and interesting.

  15. Xavi says:

    First, Marc, I hope you are feeling better!

    What an EXCELLENT show! Fausto Fausto Fausto, we need you to mimic your mother more often (well, maybe not, that way it is more special when you do it). I could not stop laughing! You sound just like her.

    On a more serious note, I couldn’t help but agree with your mom. I got over it the next day. I had JUST moved to Washington DC when it happened. After a day of chaos and realizing what happened, I remembered Oklahoma City, which to me is MUCH MUCH worse than 11 Sept. Why? Home grown terrorism, one of our own. Do people remember how many people died in OK City? Do people remember the anniversary of OK City? Did the families of the OK City victims receive hundreds of thousands of dollars? No, they received nothing. For the record…home grown terrorists attacked the federal building in Oklahoma City 19 April 1995.

    I’m not discounting that New Yorkers suffered. But they didn’t suffer more than we did in DC (pentagon, anthrax, sniper, all at the same time!) or those in Oklahoma City.

    I’ve never heard of stevia, but avoiding corn syrup definitely resonated with me. It took a while to have a no high fructose corn syrup diet (that shit is in everything!), but so worth the effort. Sounds like stevia makes it easier.

    GREAT GREAT show. Can’t wait to meet you in SF.

  16. Neither can we Xavi! Bring your FOF t-shirt if you want to get it signed in person. 🙂

  17. Reneecamp says:

    Wow! You really do learn all sorts of things on the Feast of Fools! Great show, as usual!

  18. Fishsauce says:

    Yay to all the donors, especially to Barbara! Mardy is smiling down on you!
    I was finally able to buy a t-shirt when I got a surprise bonus from work, so yay to bonuses too!

    Miss Ronnie, I love your spirit and zest for life. Even in the darkest of moments, you’re still able to find that glimmer of hope that the rest of us would so easily overlook. Thanks for all your positive energy!

    Fausto, thank you for voicing your “religious” beliefs. I’ve had similar ideas for so long but have been unable to share them because none of my family or friends would ever understand. I’m glad I’m not alone out there.

    Marc, hope you feel better soon. Here’s some chicken soup for ya!

    Hugs to all,

  19. matt says:

    to Fausto: Agnosticism has NO negative denotation in the English language.

    It refers to the belief that no one knows, nor can someone know the existence or nature of God.

    i.e. God is such an intense and broad idea, humans by nature cannot grasp the concept fully. If anything I think identifying as Agnostic is terribly humble when you think of all the people in American society who claim to know God totally.


  20. Um with fear of beong accused of plagiarism, leave britney alone. I mean that performance wasn’t as bad as everybody makes it out to be. I mean yea when you briteny and your song say It’s britney bitch you better be givinge me something off the effing charts, and she didnt so on second though CRUCIFY THE BITCH!

  21. I think the greater tragedy is not that Britney bombed her VMA performance, but that our own Congress failed to provide any alternative to the President’s “stay the course and do nothing” strategy towards Iraq. Get your heads out of the sand, people!

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