FOF #1871 – Will You Die for Madonna’s Art Revolution?
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Ever since Madonna became a household name, the pop star has wanted to become embraced as a serious actor and filmmaker. But hilariously, her ego always becomes the star of the movie.
Today Nadya Ginsburg, the woman of a 1,000 voices, talks about Madonna’s new film secretprojectrevolution where we get to see Madonna play her favorite bondage roles, while shooting her amazing back-up dancers in the head- a mercy killing.
Will I?… mhmm… the computer says no.
I love your conversations with Nadya…so much delicious insight.
Great show. Haven’t laughed so hard in a long time. A lot of those A list celebrities have to be slightly whackadoodle from all of the money, fame and constant ass kissers. You gotta love her detractors who constantly say she should quit because she is too old. Funny how no one ever says that about men like Mick Jagger. Get a grip people! Madonna will quit when and if she wants to quit, not when anyone tells her to. Don’t ever forget that this is Madonna’s world and you just get to live in it.
Sorry Guys, one more comment. I really liked Nadya’s explanation of why Madonna could never become a successful movie actress. I also believe she has a similar problem in the relationship department. No matter how hard M thinks she tries to be the good wife she COULD NEVER be dominated by a man. It just is not going to happen. Both of her marriages (especially the second) were wishful thinking at best.
why does one have to be dominated to have a successfull relationship?
Domination is a harsh way of looking at it. I think for any relationship to be successful, you sometimes have to give up yourself in order for the greater good of the couple. If you’re someone who has a hard time doing that, your relationship might suffer.
Good point and I agree, however for a person like her part of a relationship is playing a role especially in the society in which we live. Think the good wife. She sings about it. Tried to be the good wife. Diminish myself, swallow my pride. She ran around with the Mrs. Ritchie jacket on. She just can’t do it. Madonna will never be a Mrs. anything first. She is barely a mother first. Even she has admitted this in interviews when she says that she would not want to just be a parent. I’m not judging her I’m just saying that there are others that would and do make a different decision. It involves a sacrifice I just think she is not willing/can’t make. She is always Madonna first. That’s just who she is.
So I agree, maybe domination was too strong a word. And she won’t be the first or the last star to have this problem. After all, can you imagine how much energy it must take to maintain persona of Madonna?
excelent show! Nadya, tell Deven we miss her here at FoF! 🙂
Not sure the disclaimer at the beginning is convincing enough. The Madonna (and Barbra) you speak of is a craven insincere corporate monster and a troll who is at best marginally talented has no right even breathing let alone suggesting that her audience embrace their voices and get out there and do something with it. I honestly think your criticism of her is about 33% too harsh. I wish just once you guys would give an artist/celebrity the benefit of the doubt that just maybe they actually believe what they’re communicating.
I think something you wont give her credit for is that as a young person she was absolutely part of the counterculture of the early 80’s. I personally believe that once part of the counterculture you are in your heart always part of the counter culture. I think her interest in what you characterize as a craven cooptimization is actually about her lifelong personal interest in and relationship to those forms of expression. She clearly understands the people in these movements and the material she creates that is inspired by these movements are generally too authentic IMO to just be written off as a craven coopting for commercial gain.
Always happy to hear from Nadya Ginsburg but, oh, how rich it was for Fausto of all people to take Madonna to task for wanting to prove to everyone that she really, really is smart! Pot, the kettle’s on the phone. Oh, well, we’re all hypocrites to some degree, I suppose…
That’s our shared opinion about Madonna, that she is someone who is insecure about her own intellect, and does and says things because she’s afraid of being seen as stupid.
I did a show called Feast of Fools for over a decade, so obviously being called stupid doesn’t bother me, as long as it’s for something I did or said that you disagree with.
What have I done or said specifically that would have you compare me to Madonna? Honestly, I’m dying to know!