FOF #839 – Bette Davis Stamps

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We’ve got a special delivery for you today! Tracy Tyler joins us to talk about the new Bette Davis Stamp released by the US. Postal Service. The legendary Hollywood actress will be honored on September […]


  1. Erick says:

    HAHAHA I love you guys. That Betty Davis song was Amazing! You guys make my week!!!

  2. Here are the song lyrics-

    (sung to the song “Bette Davis Eyes” by Kim Karnes)

    The stamps are now being sold
    Much to our sweet surprise
    They made her look not so old
    We’ve got Bette Davis stamps

    Just stick the postage on
    You won’t have to lick twice
    It’s worth it’s weight in gold
    We’ve got Bette Davis stamps

    She’ll adhese you
    and she’ll please you
    All the better just to mail it
    She is postage
    and she knows just what it takes to get it to you
    She makes the postmaster general sigh
    We’ve got Bette Davis stamps.

  3. joost says:

    betty davis stamps … amazing! 😀

  4. Kev says:

    I don’t really know how these “gay schools” work, but I don’t think that completely segregating the gays is the solution. Now, what I DO believe in is more gay-friendly schools, with more out teachers, principals, etc. For example, here in the school system that I live in, in Florida, this county has a horrible policy that homosexuality cannot be an issue at all. If a student were to go to a guidance counselor and say “I’m gay and I have too much stress”, the counselor could do nothing, and the subject is to be discussed in the classes either. What we need is a more gay friendly society in the first place, and for that to happen in the school system, we need national recognition.

    Tell your mother to vote for Obama.

  5. Jimmy says:

    Still waiting for more info on The Tracy Tyler Cat Song Extravaganza. I tell you it will be HUGE!

  6. James Rios says:

    Schools for homosexuals only is a result of the “good idea ferry” running amuck and taking the band-aid approach to something more serious.

    Black people were segregated in the beginning and were then integrated and I am sure those trail blazers faced great hardships and violence but the paths they blazed were necessary for not only future black generations but for every ethnic/racial group.

    We should although provide a “safe haven” for victims of violence but school administrators and staff should stomp violence and work to eliminate hostile environments.

    And of course we should be teaching tolerance of differences.

  7. That’s a great idea Kev — but I think they already have that school it’s the High School for Creative and Performing arts …. 😀 —- all joking aside it’s the bullies that need to be consoled on their behavior not the gays. Because what will happen is that bully will grow up and STILL be a bully in the office and when ever they run into someone they think is weaker then them. Someone needs to teach those children at an early stage that it’s NOT OK to be a bully and that it is ok to be Gay or just even different.

  8. Rick says:

    Barbra Streisand’s gay son is Jason Gould. His father is Elliot Gould.

    From Wki:

    Jason Emanuel Gould (born December 29, 1966 in New York City) is an American actor, writer and director.

    Gould is the son of singer/actress Barbra Streisand and actor Elliott Gould, who divorced 9 July 1971. Gould spent his formative years around major Hollywood players in Los Angeles, California.

    Gould has appeared in Say Anything (1989) and the Streisand-directed film The Prince of Tides (1991), but has since rarely appeared in front of the camera. In 1997 he wrote, produced and directed the short film Inside Out, playing Aaron in the humorous story of the child of two celebrities who is outed by the tabloids. His real life father (Elliott Gould) also played his father in the short film. The short was later combined with other features for Boys Life 3 (2000).

    Gould was outed around 1991 in tabloid newspapers.

  9. Thanks Rick — I think Barbra is great and she’s a wonderful person aside from her music I’m just not a fan of her voice although I have the highest respect for her — as for her son — yes I knew he was gay but didn’t know that he was actually a director and writer. Thanks for the info.

  10. SAL-E says:

    smART show this weekend wonder if your guys are coming by?
    Sept 12-14
    Flat Iron Building Friday-Sunday for more details check out
    Tracy bring your freinds and come and look at some art as well as meeting some Chicago Local artists. Talk about a Great Fun SHow…….and there will even be some gays there too!
    Famous people expected to drop by don’t say I did not tell you so.
    Bring your camera, I am not kidding!
    This is an ALL AGES EVENT. Bring your MOMS and your kids.
    If you like ART and you are ready to see it in all shapes and forms then this event is for you.

    Love ya

  11. gabe says:

    hi guys! i haven’t finished listening to the show yet, but i just adore “bette davis stamps.” well done!



  12. Rick says:

    Hi Tracy-
    I am glad you were once a Streisand fan. I have fantasized about meeting Jason Gould for years.
    NYC has had a gay high school for many years. I wish that something like that was available when I was a teenager.

  13. I don’t think the all gay schools would be terrible as long as they’re a choice. I went through high school not open but I didn’t try to hide it. My middle school of a small town knew but when I moved to a larger school distric and sought for a supportive group but being in subrubia mass there was none. Not even teacher support. I even had to start a theatre group in which I was the only guy. I felt like the only gay in school except one trio of lesbian girls who had been ostrisized.

    I would have loved to go to a gay only high school but. That would mean a talk with my parents, whom disapproved of homos. When I confronted my father about being gay he reacted violently. Thus a gay school would be out of the question.

    So with that being said. Those kids who can’t get support from family or feel that can’t tell their family need more support in a regular high school. By creating a gay high school it would not touch those who are closeted, questining, or discriminated by family who want a more descreit way to seek help. I think there should be more money and regulations for things like GSA, which my school did not have either.

    I am only 19 so a school without any gay support still exists. Sorry for the long obnoxious reply. Like others your show envoked thought. Thanks guys.

  14. filpmire says:

    Hey Tracy, Good to hear you again. Got your message from the Saugatuck podcast. We loved having you all up, and hope we can do it again. F & M, I have your tee-bag 😉 I’ll have to drop it off for you sometime.

    Now for the comment. I agree with you, Tracy, about Barbra’s voice. From that Broadway album on, it’s all just one big over-produced blah. Funny Girl was her prime. Good podcast! Talk to you later 😉

    Tracy, you’re the only person, I know, that gets hit on at the Uptown Post Office! Lol!

  15. steve610 says:

    gay school???? the boys locker room is going to be crazy 🙂 hahahaha but seriously the main argument against these schools is that people claim that its letting homophobia win and that students should be taught to embrace individuality……nice concept……pity its not being done. this school is a last resort and is basically a fix for the failures of the school system. Nothing is done to stop homophobia in my school…..thats why i, and most gay guys in my school, don’t go. Theres nothing wrong with creating a safe and bully free atmosphere for learning…….most gays never had one…….i do agree that there shouldn’t be a need for a school like this…..but there is……at least somebody is making an attempt at fixing the problem of homophobia in schools…….the government clearly aren’t. xxxxxxxxxxxx

  16. As a person who dropped out of high school mostly because I couldn’t take being teased for “appearing” gay (I never came out until in college) I would have loved to have had the choice to go to a school for queer teens.

    I guess in many ways Tracy is right that a lot of those “Fine Arts” high schools can provide a lot of solace to the queer teenager. For me music was my salvation.

  17. steve610 says:

    thats really true…….because my school doesn’t have a gay straight alliance or anything…..because we don’t really need one….we have musical theater classes and they are basically the same thing. like in my music class 11 out of 18 guys are gay. Music and English seem to be the subjects me and my friends like the most because its another form of expression. I’m only 15 now…..but when I think of the bullying that happened last year it doesn’t seem like it was even that serious. But at the time it was hell. Bullying in my opinion is as serious as the person being bullied perceives it to be, not as serious as a teacher perceives it to be. Thats why I think a zero tolerance policy is the only real solution. xxx

  18. I think that Marc had it right when we were talking about this off the air — there should be a school for the Bullies — don’t segregate the gays — put the bullies in special schools LOL

  19. Timmy T says:

    Hey guys,

    Great show today, Tracy; I loved Bette Davis’ Stamps. lol

    Has anyone been able to find the pic they so obviously photoshopped to get the cigarette out of the picture?

    We already have these ‘gay schools’ in Barcelona. A few years ago, before we legalized gay marriage, the mayor and a few other government officials responded to a gay child’s brutal beating by creating what they called ‘escuelas seguras’ or safe schools, full of LGBT students, it was completely optional to attend them and many people apposed them at first saying they were creating segregation and singling out LGBT youth.

    The kids actually loved them. These schools have some of the highest grades and are enjoying 100% graduation rate.

    I personally love this idea and think it would be great for such a gay city in the US to start this. I think it would open up more doors for the gay community in the us…

    Just my $0.02

  20. I also suggest put the bullies in a special school. They should be punished!
    I made some good, straight friends in school and with only gay people I would have missed something.

  21. steve610 says:

    lol Tracy I wouldn’t like to be a teacher in an all bully school 🙂 xxxxx

  22. Geostud says:

    I think Tracy needs to release “Bette Davis Stamps” as a single, lol. So cute! As for the Gay and Lesbian school, I think the best solution is to keep schools integrated and work on educating students about sexual diversity. Separating the gay kids is exactly what the bullies want.

  23. matt says:

    Love the “Bette Davis Eyes” parody. You guys make me chortle.

  24. RcktMan says:

    LOVED the show, everyone! Tracy’s Kim Carnes impression was hysterical, and I loved the song! When will it be on iTunes for purchase? 🙂

    I’ve been hearing all week about this “high school for gays” and I thought pretty much the same way as Tracy – it seems a lot like segregation to me… but I also see Marc’s point that it would be an option. I just hope that it would be used as an option for kids who just didn’t fit in anywhere else. I can’t imagine it wouldn’t be set up that way… but I do think that it’s important for kids to get the experience of dealing with discrimination at an early age — sheltering them from it will either make them bitter or completely naive to it. And trust me, being naive is not fun.

    As for Tracy’s idea of an all-bully school… some girls might like that sort of environment. 😉

  25. steve610 says:

    “but I do think that it’s important for kids to get the experience of dealing with discrimination at an early age”……..Hmmmmm so you’re one of the people who believes that bullying is a right of passage???? Great!!! what a brilliant attitude to have!!! *rolls eyes*

  26. Rhea says:

    No, I don’t think that’s what Rick is saying. As a queer, you’re going to stick out, no matter what, and no matter when in your life. He’s just saying that “dealing with discrimination at early age” will help you get better prepared to face life’s challenges, and I agree with him. At the same time, getting picked on every single day by bullies is not much fun either. So if you have the means and the desire to go to gay-only schools, go for it! Enjoy that high school Shangri-La! But remember that life outside of school won’t always be a cakewalk. It’s a cold, cold world out there.

  27. RcktMan says:

    Thank you, Rhea… you put what I said into exactly the right context.

  28. Jack says:

    input your comment here…

  29. Jack says:

    Excuse the hell out of me, but we still shouldn’t be using the word “bullies” when the REAL term is “ASSAILANT.” Call 911. PERIOD.

  30. steve610 says:

    sorry rick…….i took that out of context 🙂 xxxxxxx

  31. steve610 says:

    and also I understand that most queers have experienced discrimination…and have dealt with it. But the problem occurs when someone can’t deal with it.

  32. well I think that– yes— you need to learn to deal with discrimination at an early stage HOWEVER it’s extremely damaging to be treated like a second class citizen in your younger years — I know from experience that you will grow up to always feel like the outsider as an adult and always feel like you are not good enough to be part of the main stream. Maybe gay schools are good in the sense that “ignorance is bliss” — when you graduate you will hit the world head on and with full force not dwelling on discrimination only to second guess yourself. You will be confident and self assured. I think sometimes the problem with gay and trans youth is that you feel alone and separate from the rest of the world and the bullying reinforces that insecurity and ingrains in you a life time of self esteem issues.

  33. matt says:

    All education options should be open. A school for LGBT youth, home schooling and LGBT and straight ally organizations at the local public school should be important.

  34. Studies show that girls that go to all girl schools do better academically than girls in co-ed environments. How they fair after high school, I don’t know, but being in an environment where they can express themselves more freely must be important to their development.

    Maybe we can take a cue from their experience.

  35. I can’t see a situation where forced segregation would happen in any school system. Why anyone think that GLBT high schools are anything but optional shows how much misunderstanding we have of the situation.

    What are they going to do? Force someone to go to the school because they are a little too butch or sissy?

    One thing I’d like to see is sexual orientation awareness training mandatory for all high school teachers in the public school system. How about fighting for that?

  36. Also, the notion that pain and suffering make someone a “better” person or better suited to face the challenges that life can throw at you is simply wrong.

    By that measure, people who come from war stricken areas would be the best equipped to face the “challenges” of life. What better training to give to a child than send them into a war zone?

    Parenting and teaching involves the child feeling SAFE. When their safety is compromised because of trauma, bullies, violent people of any kind, the growing and learning process is compromised.

  37. Rhea says:

    So the notion that “what does not kill us, makes us stronger” isn’t true? Nietzsche and Kanye West are such lying bitches!!! :-O

  38. Rhea says:

    But seriously, Fausto– I agree with you that every child should be safe and protected. No one wants to throw kids into war zones here.

    I’m just saying that when I was a kid, having encountered racism and prejudice in school for being Asian, I was better equipped to handle the harsh realities of coming out as a gay woman. On the other hand, one of my best friends, who is gay and is the biggest WASP ever, had had a harder time adjusting to being prejudged (“I can’t believe he called me a faggot!”). It’s almost like in Private Benjamin, when she first entered army life.

  39. I can’t get enough of you guys-and Tracy! I was singing that song all last night.
    Please come to Philly-we’ve got the best crack!

  40. The Bette Davis Stamps song made me spill water on my work keyboard. TOO FUNNY!!

    Also, Tracy, if you love Mae West, check out a play called “Dirty Blonde”. It’s about her life and it’s GREAT!

  41. I dont believe these schools are totally segregated, at least thats the case with the Harvey Milk School in NY. There are straight and gay and everything in between students.

    A school like that would have been a godsend for me. I was tortured mercilessly beginning in the 5th grade. Eventually I was assaulted by four men in my neighborhood on the street shortly after I took a boy to my junior prom. I had to enroll in a special ed class for severely emotionally disturbed kids as a result of all the physical and death threats. I actually got an incredible education as there were only 8 students and 4 teachers. It was a little slice of heaven for me and I wasn’t being battered on a daily basis.

    The idea of removing the bullies is preposterous because the jocks, the popular kids, and the administration including the teachers are the bullies. They have no love for the outcasts or the unpopular kids gay or not.

  42. To learn more about the proposed Pride Campus, a
    CPS community forum will be held from 6 p.m. until 8 p.m. on Thursday,
    September 18, 2008, in the Billie Jean King Recreation Hall
    at Center on Halsted, 3656 N. Halsted St.

    See you there!

  43. Craig says:

    I think that having a school that was advertised as accepting of all minorties, including GLBTQ, could be a very good thing. I don’t necessarily think that a school that was only for GLBTQ individuals would necessarily be good. I’ve found that when we as a group isolate ourselves from the rest of society, we begin to be as judgemental and start to stereotype straight people almost as much as we are judged and stereotyped. There needs to be integration of gay and straight society, and while that will take time to achieve, a school that truly treats all students equally, where teachers and the administration are sensitive to the different needs and experiences of minority students, and aren’t afraid of openly being able to have discussions about sexuality, sexual orientation, race, etc., would be wonderful.

    Fausto, I didn’t come out until Universitiy either, and that was largely because of my parent’s religion, but my school experience was also very negative, and definately contributed to my fear of expressing my sexuality. I was beaten up a lot and called a fag even though I had a girl friend in HS. Even if I hadn’t come out, it would have been wonderful to be in a school where not only the students were more accepting, but also the faculty. A lot of teachers can be just as harmful to gay students as other students are. Children need to be safe, and I didn’t feel that way until my final year at university.

  44. PureeTofu says:

    I’ve got to side with Tracy and feel that a GLBT school is not the best idea.
    However, there should be better education through the schools about differences in sexuality.

    A better solution might be a “safe place” or GLBT center like many colleges have. I just don’t think removing the GLBT students will help. Situations can benefit the GLBT students such as seeing the dumb jocks can be a learning tool, aka don’t drink moonshine in my case. While in other situations, the straight students need to learn that certain words can’t be used and why, so on.

  45. TRey says:

    I just got my Bette Davis stamps!

  46. It looks like the school is going to happen after all.

  47. rds150 says:

    i wish Tracy could be on the show more often…. i want me some China Buffet

  48. Ned Bought Some Bette Stamps

    Listener Ned Bought some stamps!

  49. Hello guys, I´m a little behind with the shows so I just listened to this one today… The Bette Davis song is a blast! And I checked the Giant Penis Man using Google Earth, because I almost couldn´t believe it!! And YES, it is visible from outer space…. It is close to Cerne Abbas (Dorset, UK)…

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